Very true re the metronome Frank as it's everyones responsibility in the group to keep the time.
Good post Andy,
I too think that we have off days and 'on it' days. What I am happy with is that (playing wise) I have gotten to the stage where even my bad nights sound reasonable.
(Oh boy does that sound baaaaad!!!)
What I am trying to say, (without sounding like I think I'm the sh*t - I'm not) is that, technically speaking, I might not think I played well, but members of the audience may come up and compliment me (or the band) on the gig.
I think this is important to understand. It doesn't make it easier for me to deal with (I'm aware I might have had a stinker that particular night) I'd still beat myself up about it, the point is to get to a stage where your 'bad' nights aren't obvious to the rest of the band, or audience for that matter...
MP
Very true re the metronome Frank as it's everyones responsibility in the group to keep the time.
I suck.... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
But I'm still having a good time doin it!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Dazz-
For my part, sorry for any failure to communicate. I bet if I were English? [img]smile.gif[/img]
I do not judge myself based on whether guys are smiling and I am not saying we need to "grade ourselves" per se, though I felt that that was the proper idiomatic, universal way to discuss personal criterion for working situations. And whether we "grade ourselves" or not, we certainly all feel we did bad or good about a gig. All I wanted to find out was what it was for this elite class of drummers that made a good gig, good for them. I could suggest that we all pragmatically look at it through the lens of whether or not we get hired again or asked again, but I know that when it comes to our drumming, that is not a sufficient mechanism. We want to be better for ourselves, not because we want to be like Virgil, Vinnie or Rikki Rockett.
With that I hope that all is settled. Dazz, you are good man and I understand what you were responding to. I am on that page with you.
Nice Frank - thanks for the responce. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
I think we're ultimately singing from the same hymn book. I hope I corrected myself in my second post.
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Frank, I like your attitude. Like to hear you play sometime...
Hey Grease- I'm in a musician recovery group with a bunch of other former North Texas drummers-things are going well, though I still need to be restrained with a straitjacket when we start discussing Carlock...
I'm sure we could share some stories...feel free to PM.
I wouldn't trade that ass-kicking experience for anything...
...anyone remember the story about the tortoise and the hare?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Fuse, I mean GAMG. This is definely the next step. I think I'm gonna purchase the Yamaha Click Station. I there's been a bunch of other threads on this topis so I'll dig through them.Originally posted by got_a_matchgrip?:
I find that, in a situation where another instrumentalist doesn't have the greatest time, as in, like you mentioned, the "starting off rushing" thing, which many folks tend to do live, is to have a beforehand agreement that you the drummer [you're in the Driver's Seat!] begins the tune w a subtle audivle or visible count off via metronome device; <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ April 07, 2005 12:01 PM: Message edited by: got_a_matchgrip? ]</font></font>
Great post Andy. I wish everyone had the same thoughts s you when they sit behind their drums.
1) did I get that double bass lick in?
2) did I twirl my sticks in time during the chorus?
3) did I get in the double blushda?
4) did I get the eye from the chick in the front row?
5) Did my powder blue Tommy Aldridge Zildjian sleeveless t-shirt look great in the lights?
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LOL...
6] [I wonder if these cretins know how fast I really am] / was I really fast tonight? OH yeah, my singles [end of every 4 bars] were ON, baby...
7] Which waitress will cop me the free drinks?
8] Wonder if I can get to the bar b4 it's last call & it closes? Let's hurry up this last song [by rushing]...
9] [In "Rosanna"] I wonder how many times I can fit in this Chambers RC/HH - 3:4 - accenting every 4th note of the 16th triplet groove trick? What? There's vox over the top?! Aw, they won't mind...it's a really cool trick...the crowd will dig it...
10] What? This song isn't in 4/4? How do I count that?
11] My legs are constricted - I can't get the speed in my dbl-kicks [top-40 gig]...I GOTTA get some new spandex...
12] The last drummer played "traditional grip?" Yeah, I've heard of that...i think i saw that in an MD ad once, too...
13] [After each set] - How's my mullett?
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...[He couldn't get that DB lick in when he wanted because of those big heavy black army / stormtrooper / biker boots]...
j/k [just a little hb-hod humor]...sorry about the left turn...I couldn't resist Dazz's lead...blame him]... :cp
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